Good news! House R's force a debate on Kucinich impeachment resolution [UPDATE]

they think they're so goddam crafty, but it just may backfire on 'em... wouldn't THAT be fun to watch...!

House Republicans, changing course midway through a vote, tried to force Democrats into a debate on a resolution to impeach Vice President Dick Cheney on the grounds he purposely led the country into war against Iraq.

The GOP tactics reversed what had been expected to an overwhelming vote to table, or kill, the resolution by longshot Democratic presidential candidate Dennis Kucinich.

Midway through the vote, with instructions from the GOP leadership, Republicans one by one changed their votes from yes _ to kill the resolution _ to no, trying to force the chamber into a debate and an up-or-down vote on the proposal.

At one point there were 290 votes to table. After the turnaround, the final vote was 251-162 against tabling, with 165 Republicans voting against it.

"We're going to help them out, to explain themselves," said Rep. Pete Sessions, R-Texas. "We're going to give them their day in court."

ya know what...? it's entirely within the realm of possibility that this may just be the dumbest move they've ever made... we can always hope, can't we...?

[UPDATE]

Seeking to avoid a debate, Rep. Hoyer then moved to have the resolution sent to the House Judiciary Committee, which the House approved in a 218-194 vote along strict party lines.

Although House Judiciary Committee chairman is not expected to to act on the resolution, Rep. Kucinich said in a press conference late Tuesday afternoon that he believed the measure still have a life.

"Ive spoken to Mr. Conyers, and I'm quite confident that the ball is in good hands," said Kucinich.

you may be confident that it's in good hands with conyers, dennis, but you're going to have to convince ME...

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Tom DeLay and Zell Miller are both certifiable

ordinarily, i wouldn't give the teeniest, weeniest crap about what comes out of either tom delay's or zell miller's mouth, but these are two for the books...

flatulent idiocy number one...

"I contend [abortion] affects you in immigration," DeLay told the Washington-area [gathering of College Republicans]. "If we had those 40 million children that were killed over the last 30 years, we wouldn't need the illegal immigrants to fill the jobs that they are doing today. Think about it."

flatulent idiocy number two...

Former Georgia Democratic Senator Zell Miller gave a speech to an anti-abortion conference earlier in the year that linked abortion to illegal immigration. Miller also blamed abortion for other societal ills, such as the state of America's Social Security system and difficulty in recruiting soldiers for the Armed Forces.

the reason illegal immigration has been tolerated (and continues to be tolerated) is that it's a steady source of cheap labor for american business people who want to continue to keep profit margins and executive compensation soaring... it's the very same reason george bush was supporting the failed immigration bill, because it would have kept the labor supply flowing over our southern border...

even without those unborn children, there are more than enough bona-fide american citizens to fill all those jobs, but, since the pay is shit and the working conditions are shit, and it's impossible to keep body and soul together by working those jobs, they're left to the desperate folks who manage to make it across the border, usually leaving their families and all they've ever known behind for the chance to work for shit wages, which are still 3-4x more than they could earn back home...

as for social security, illegal immigrants are the best thing ever to happen to that program... many illegals register with a fake social security number so that they can be employed... all that money that goes in, they will never see again... this has provided a windfall to the social security fund in the billions...

delay and miller are both yapping, pandering fools who couldn't find their asses with both hands...

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