The neocon deity, Michael Ledeen, talks to Raw Story

fascinating... depressing... confusing... faintly encouraging... faintly horrifying...

• ML: The left, which has become reactionary and counterrevolutionary, wants to stigmatize people who advocate democratic revolution, and so they use the word "conservative," which for the left is an epithet.
  

• ML: Can I say something about how I view human nature? I think it will help at least part of this conversation. I have a pretty dim view of human nature, as I think any serious historian must. Most human activities aren't very pretty, most of the time we screw up, it's rare when you find an exceptional person and even in such cases they often fall from grace. [...] And I'm not sure Machiavelli was wrong when he said that "man is more inclined to do evil than to do good."
  

• RS: Who should be held accountable for violating the Geneva Conventions and for committing war crimes, the soldiers following orders, or the officials setting that policy, or the attorneys who made it somehow legal? ML: We've been through this several times now. Punish all the guilty parties, whoever they are, and do everything possible to prevent anything of the sort happening again. RS: Including Dick Cheney and George W. Bush? ML: No exceptions.

• ML: I agree that our support for the Saudi Royal Family is a mistake, and I've said that, and I have always included them in my list of "terror masters," along with Saddam's Iraq, the mullahs' Iran, and the Assads' Syria.

i wouldn't at all look forward to sitting down with mr. ledeen for a chat over coffee... he gives me the creeps...

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